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Posted : Tuesday, 18 September 2012 7:39:25 PM(UTC)
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Hi,

Anyone tried one of these digging knives ?

Fiskars Big Grip Garden Knife

Seems to be about $25 on eBay shipped.

Might buy a couple and try them out. I don,t have a Lesche digger but do have a Kelly co gator one but find it to heavy and clunky. :-)

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Posted : Tuesday, 18 September 2012 8:47:11 PM(UTC)
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Haven't used one but there are reports in the forums about the handle breaking on them. I also personally don't like the split in the end, I think it would catch when digging in Kakuyu weed and other small roots. If you are thinking of ordering 2 then one lesche or predator tool (original lesche) would not be much more.
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Posted : Tuesday, 18 September 2012 9:01:25 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Shilo Go to Quoted Post
Haven't used one but there are reports in the forums about the handle breaking on them. I also personally don't like the split in the end, I think it would catch when digging in Kakuyu weed and other small roots. If you are thinking of ordering 2 then one lesche or predator tool (original lesche) would not be much more.


I think you are right Grant.
I have a trowel of that brand that I used when I first started.
It digs well but I would be reluctant to use it as a lever while digging as I think it is cast alloy and would snap.

Chris.
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Posted : Tuesday, 18 September 2012 9:31:24 PM(UTC)
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Given the above comments I have only bought 1.

It cost $19 shipped so not too bad. Will try it out and give some feed back. :-)
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Posted : Friday, 21 September 2012 2:45:15 AM(UTC)
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After breaking/bending two of my wife's gardening trowels I bought a Lesche ...
bit expensive at $47 but tough as old nails.
http://www.texaspremiumd...item/4731964/4775036.htm
Thing when pulling it out at a park, it looks like a major weapon, which I am not so comfortable with. Any how it works well and I can use it like a crow bar sometimes :) ..
Be interesting to see how the beast of your performs too ! :)
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Posted : Saturday, 22 September 2012 12:23:14 PM(UTC)
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Used my new Lesche digging tool for the first time yesterday. You're right digger, tough as old nails and more than adequate for the job. The only minor issue I had with it yesterday was "gacking" a couple of my finds with the blade whilst digging them.............when you "gack" the find with this tool, it really gets "gacked". I guess it's just a matter of getting to know how to use it more efficiently. I think for now I might experiment at using it only to remove the plug, then have my trusty trowel at hand to do the digging!
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Posted : Saturday, 22 September 2012 5:57:30 PM(UTC)
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Hi No8, Here's some tips on using the Lesche:

Give the blade edges a sharpen with a file (using a grinder can destroy the steels temper), it will be so much better at cutting through grass roots. After the initial sharpen I zip mine with a knife sharpener after every few hunts to keep it in good condition.

Cut an oversize plug with the target smack in the centre. I make mine U shaped about 10-13cm wide (keep the plug attached by roots at the top of the U and flip it over). An oversize plug means the chances of hitting the target is a lot less and it means it has a lot of roots left, a small plug will be a dead patch of grass in a weeks time. This size is also big enough to get my hand or the Lesche's handle in the hole for a deep dig.

When cutting the plug or digging, angle the Lesche at 90 or greater degrees so that the sides of the hole are straight or slope away from the centre. This makes finding the target a lot easier and avoids the risk of gouging it. I then normally pin point the plug, sides of the hole and the centre of the hole to find out where the target is. If its still in the hole then I dig the point of the lesche in at angle (well away from the target) and lever it to loosen the dirt. I scoop the dirt out with a hand and run the pin pointer over the pile, if still in the hole - repeat.

If there are a lot of gravel or rocks in the dirt then levering the lesche to loosen the dirt/gravel will greatly help in avoiding damaging the find. Use it like a crow bar instead of a pick in these situations, the tool is built to take it.

Its surprising how often when after cutting a clean plug and flipping it over, the target is just sitting loose at the bottom of the hole with its indent on the bottom of the plug. Its almost like the soil naturally parts where the target is.
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Posted : Saturday, 22 September 2012 7:47:57 PM(UTC)
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Cheers for your informative and very comprehensive answers there Shilo.........VERY much appreciated. I'm planning a hunt tomorrow morning and will put your advise to good use.......first job after tea tonight will be to get the file out!
My first mistake has been to cut my three sided plug far too small. I always make sure I leave one side attached to flip the plug over but all too often, make the hole far too small. Second error of my ways is to angle my turf cut into the centre of the plug............it's an unconscious thing but I realise now that that's my second mistake. Thanks again Shilo for the great advise.
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Posted : Thursday, 27 September 2012 10:36:42 PM(UTC)
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Got a stainless trowel from Warehouse for $10 - I have been quite hard on it & it hasn't looked like bending or breaking ............... & it comes with a money back guarantee

I don't think I would like the Fiskars as the feedback on it is quite shite

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Posted : Thursday, 27 September 2012 11:14:49 PM(UTC)
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My warehouse stainless trowel broke after about a year , which is certainly pretty good. I bought another 2, one is a spare for the boot of the car.

I grind some teeth into the side of them and sharpen them too.

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Posted : Friday, 28 September 2012 10:50:04 PM(UTC)
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I cut pentagon shaped plugs...................................

The devil made me do it.

Carved up my own lawn for practice. Found a 1908 3d and most of the leadheads off the nails on the roof.

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Posted : Saturday, 29 September 2012 2:28:02 PM(UTC)
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you know metal detecting on roofs is awfully dangerous? LoL ;)
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Posted : Tuesday, 2 October 2012 10:05:42 PM(UTC)
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here's a good reason not to get a Fiskars -

fwd through to approx 5.20 on the video -
http://www.youtube.com/w...t&list=ULMseZ314ynKA
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Posted : Tuesday, 9 October 2012 11:55:10 AM(UTC)
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Hi Apostle40 -

Have you received the Fiskars yet?

How do you find them?
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Posted : Tuesday, 9 October 2012 1:53:24 PM(UTC)
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Nah still hasn't arrived but i'm thinking i might have to weld the handle to the blade a bit better me thinks.. lol
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Posted : Tuesday, 9 October 2012 2:29:43 PM(UTC)
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My latest toy.

Business end is a $5 steel trowel from Warehouse. Thin handle cut off then a tee made from some thick walled pipe I recycled from a dead $1 garage sale warehouse Telmann washing machine.

I expect this will last many years. The tee handle is great because when using a trowel to cut a plug, downward force is used. The knives require a sideways force which kills my lower back.

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Posted : Tuesday, 9 October 2012 3:10:02 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: oroplata Go to Quoted Post
My latest toy.

Business end is a $5 steel trowel from Warehouse. Thin handle cut off then a tee made from some thick walled pipe I recycled from a dead $1 garage sale warehouse Telmann washing machine.

I expect this will last many years. The tee handle is great because when using a trowel to cut a plug, downward force is used. The knives require a sideways force which kills my lower back.



That sure is a mean machine OP.
I like it.

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Posted : Wednesday, 10 October 2012 6:31:54 PM(UTC)
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Nah still hasn't arrived but i'm thinking i might have to weld the handle to the blade a bit better me thinks.. lol


I hope it works out for YOU bud - ;)

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Posted : Wednesday, 10 October 2012 6:59:25 PM(UTC)
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It arrived in the post today.

From end to end it's about 310mm long.
The blade etc is at least 2mm thick and feels very strong.
It could possibly do with another seam weld along the shank as its done on one side and not the other.
Can't see to well how its attached to the handle or whether the blade continues through or not to the handle. Possibly welded. if it did break here then I would weld a new stronger handle.

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Posted : Thursday, 25 October 2012 12:49:22 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: number8wire Go to Quoted Post
Used my new Lesche digging tool for the first time yesterday. You're right digger, tough as old nails and more than adequate for the job. The only minor issue I had with it yesterday was "gacking" a couple of my finds with the blade whilst digging them.............when you "gack" the find with this tool, it really gets "gacked". I guess it's just a matter of getting to know how to use it more efficiently. I think for now I might experiment at using it only to remove the plug, then have my trusty trowel at hand to do the digging!


Gad I hear what you say!! Last week, in a hurry to get back to the car, since it had just started raining hard and, I had an unprotected detector! It suddenly pinged a good silver signal.! Bugger, aint that always the way lol...
Got the detector in the car then ran back out in the heavy down pour and furiously dug the target.
I try to embrace what Shilo said but this time.. Well I "gacked" it just a bit. Pity!
It was a 1936 part silver, Sixpence in, surprising good condition. Now there is a small ( but to me,) annoying scratch on it.
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