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MINING PERMIT APPLICATION

simon		Posted : Friday, 20 May 2011 10:39:28 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 7/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 789 Location: Central Otago Thanks: 33 times Was thanked: 239 time(s) in 150 post(s)		i have a query in regards to the lodging of a mining permit on a piece of land. if someone has applied for a permit to mine, but it has not yet been successful, does this mean that in the meantime the land in question is free to prospect on say with a detector or sluice? taking into account the obvious laws of the land in regard to owners allowing access etc, and the fact that you are not meant to mine anywhere with no permit. what i mean is that you would not be in conflict with the said applicant of the submitted but not approved permit?
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overdog		Posted : Friday, 20 May 2011 12:36:05 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 2/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 418 Location: nelson Thanks: 69 times Was thanked: 82 time(s) in 68 post(s)		Good question.If the permit had been lodged by a big company I think you would get away with claiming (har har) ignorance but if the claim was a one man band you might have some trouble... Not sure of the legal implications.Perhaps JW can shed some light?

simon		Posted : Friday, 20 May 2011 12:59:11 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 7/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 789 Location: Central Otago Thanks: 33 times Was thanked: 239 time(s) in 150 post(s)		cheers overdog, was just curious, i don't want to tread on anyone's toes. i was going to head upstream from a spot where i know theres gold but have doubts on whether there's any past a certain point. previous mining has not occurred that far out either. then, blow me down, someone has gone and got a permit on the spot. bloody rough with no easy access too. simon.
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kiwijw		Posted : Friday, 20 May 2011 6:45:03 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,152 Thanks: 92 times Was thanked: 658 time(s) in 324 post(s)		. Edited by user Saturday, 9 July 2011 2:07:34 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

simon		Posted : Saturday, 21 May 2011 5:01:24 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 7/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 789 Location: Central Otago Thanks: 33 times Was thanked: 239 time(s) in 150 post(s)		thanks jw, nicely said and spot on. the permit i was talking about i think prob may be rejected actually, if there is such a thing, for a couple of reasons. i'll wait and see. i know the permit team love the applicant fee tho! cheers simon.
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Ted		Posted : Saturday, 21 May 2011 10:33:54 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 4/04/2011(UTC) Posts: 3 Location: Motueka Was thanked: 2 time(s) in 2 post(s)		I applied for a permit ,waited 8 months ,no feed back on where they were with it,got itchy feet so went and did some sampling because summer was nearly over.DOC reported me to CM for illegal mining,note; i was not on doc ground.CM have now declined my permit.I am only a one man band with small dredge. I,m very peed off.All i was doing was trying to do things all legal and get nowhere. ted
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KraziKiwi		Posted : Saturday, 21 May 2011 2:17:19 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Flake Groups: Registered Joined: 14/12/2010(UTC) Posts: 29 Location: Blenheim Was thanked: 20 time(s) in 10 post(s)		Hi All Brought my claim up the wakamarina 5 years ago and had problem after problem.Glass Earth owns km after km of land up there and two bends of the claim was over laped with theres....so had to write letter after letter to get this claimed. Crown Minerals I think need to sort out a better deal for the small scale miner Anyway once you have a claim it is a great feeling and as you know I have offered everyone here a chance to fossick on my claim.I have helped out a few but I will have to say no more.Thoughts of a 8" dredge are in the pipeline and I have a new team member Steve from here in Blenheim who has contributed alot to the claim and by the few bits of gold we have collected look out winter dredging.So any questions you have please ask.....Over and out
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Stumbler		Posted : Saturday, 21 May 2011 2:36:42 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Flake Groups: Registered Joined: 20/09/2010(UTC) Posts: 18 Thanks: 3 times Was thanked: 4 time(s) in 3 post(s)		Hey Ted, heard your news, that sux mate, have you looked into review/appeal?. Maybe get your MP to look at it, or go straight to Gerry Brownlea. I wouldn't leave it too long, probably worth a bit of try; the opinion of that chap at the council might help?. Iwi were sorted etc. There's often an obligation from Govt Depts to 'fair justice' and that usually includes timely reply/responding, keeping applicants/clients informed etc; I'd go for flawed-due- process or something?. As Krazi says, CM have to be more user friendly for the small guy, too many hoops!; We do less damage than a flood. Not on DoC land!, they should keep their #%@^& noses out of it,....bed-wetters!. People who get caught dredging without a permit loose less than you have spent. Those two Chch guys we bumped into were fairly disgusted with the slack attitude re- contact/communication you had been getting....they'd be really spewing at the outcome!. Anyway, hope you still manage to get in a bit of the yellow stuff. If you want a bit of a bush-legal consultation....you know where I'm at and what I drink! Stblr

gingerbreadman		Posted : Saturday, 21 May 2011 3:07:30 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 19/07/2010(UTC) Posts: 473 Location: south of the black stump Thanks: 34 times Was thanked: 96 time(s) in 74 post(s)		Ted wrote: I applied for a permit ,waited 8 months ,no feed back on where they were with it,got itchy feet so went and did some sampling because summer was nearly over.DOC reported me to CM for illegal mining,note; i was not on doc ground.CM have now declined my permit.I am only a one man band with small dredge. I,m very peed off.All i was doing was trying to do things all legal and get nowhere. ted Hi there ted that sux....did you have reasorse consent...? if you did that would be a big pluss for you if you were to appeal CM also did you get a tenement agent to do the paper work for you..? as iv got a claim and a mate of my,n has a couple we use the same agent and all of them have gone through granted with,n 4 month,s no questions asked. gbm.

Ted		Posted : Sunday, 22 May 2011 7:20:10 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 4/04/2011(UTC) Posts: 3 Location: Motueka Was thanked: 2 time(s) in 2 post(s)		Yep,i had meet with local council and sorted consent matters.and yep i have written back to CM appealing decision.
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kiwijw		Posted : Sunday, 22 May 2011 11:47:39 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 28/03/2010(UTC) Posts: 1,152 Thanks: 92 times Was thanked: 658 time(s) in 324 post(s)		. Edited by user Saturday, 9 July 2011 2:07:59 AM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified