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The problem lies with the people for not ensuring that the government operates within the bounds of the principles and philosophies of a mandate based on the interests, health and welfare of the citizens and not for their masters, the owners of the Federal Reserve and other banking interests who have effectively bankrupted us under the Fractional Reserve Banking system. Personally I think that it is time to put into power a government who swears allegiance to the people, who serve for a modest wage as an indication of their integrity and sincerity, who are monitored by and Government department which overseas the decisions that are made are made for the people and not for the good of off shore interests. If I was in power the first thing I would do is annex all communications, services etc back into state ownership and also let it be known that the offshore money lenders have had as much as they are getting - NO MORE...the debt is paid!

Now come on dog...10 cents a litre...shurely not...now if you had of said 1&2 cent lolly,s i mite have bealieved you haha!!

Now you have hit the nail right on the head - yes it is slow erosion of rights in such a way that people are actually happy with that erosion - that is what makes it so sinister - thou shalt wear thou seat belt otherwise you shalt be in shitters ditch, though shall not smoke in the hotel otherwise big brother will fine you accordingly, thou shalt not mount your bicycle without your helmet on and on it goes - of course all the multitude think this is so sensible and about time but it is also the subtle enslavement of us all - of course people will wake up...but by then it is too late because they will know who exactly to keep an eye on, who exactly to visit on the Night of the Long Knives - of course it will happen again, history always repeats.
Because people will wake up the Governments masters had to ensure that every email letter, every phone call could be monitored. Have anyone of you taken Telecoms free offer of McAfee anti virus - I bet you have - have you read the small print? - I bet you havent - you just pushed 'I Agree' - so what did you agree to - You agreed that McAfee could record, retrieve and store every single thing you sent and researched on their files...now why would they want to do that?
Why do you think your government sold the communications etc - it was because they were told to by their masters - remember how we borrowed money to create the welfare state - payback time folks.
Hoard gold - dont keep money - convert it to gold - that will be one of the only bargaining commodities you will be able to use one day

Edited by user Saturday, 2 July 2011 12:00:03 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

In actual fact it is more obvious in New Zealand than any other country, at least to us - firstly communications - by selling communications our criminal government GAVE the money masters the right to listen and record to all you say, to record all you write and to store this information in the event of any case against you...has anyone here actually READ what you agreed to when you subscribed to Telecom - note well that when you subscribed you automatically agreed, those were the terms but I bet you didnt get a chance to actually read them!
Railways was sold for a pittance then it was run into the ground and now they dont seem to want it anymore - not enough money involved! Not enough profit.
Electricity generation and supply, the right to mine our gold noting well that OUR gold being mined at Macraes goes off shore and what do we get - a few contracts and jobs and thats all!
Forestry - we owned a great Forestry Industry and it was operated by the NZFS - of course we thought it gave us Kiwis a steady job for life - haha - big joke - it was sold to foreigners and the jobs went west.

If you really want to see something enlightening then watch Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Addendum and the third of the series - therein lies the truth - the truth we are fed is the conspiracy and the conspiracy is closer to the truth.

Have you ever wondered why the death penalty for treason was revoked - it was because the government could not have a death penalty for what THEY are guilty of!...when the populace at large finally wake up!

I hope that somehow people DO wake up, throw the politicians in prison, put in a peoples government who will swear allegiance to the population of the country, will annex ex state assets back into state ownership and cancel the National debt as it HAS been paid off enough. We should never have borrowed under Fractional Reserve banking - know what that is? If not then google and be surprised...or shocked at what your government has done to you.

Remember - keep your gold - do not sell it! Invest in silver - when you are out detecting keep all the old silver coins you find.