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Counterfeit Detectors - Teknetics T2+

rumple		Posted : Friday, 1 August 2014 10:30:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 13/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 0 Location: North island Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 17 time(s) in 12 post(s)		Thanks kiwijw for trademe link. My mate has also asked him on that auction about if he can supply serial numbers. David likes to dodge those type of questions. He didn't answer it , but he tried to say that everything he said in that teknetics auction was true. Iv got the proof how fake it was and how much crap he talks. My mate that asked the question has also been with me when I open detector box and bidded on auction.

rumple		Posted : Friday, 1 August 2014 10:33:15 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 13/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 0 Location: North island Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 17 time(s) in 12 post(s)

sycotoad		Posted : Saturday, 2 August 2014 2:21:25 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 9/08/2012(UTC) Posts: 569 Location: downunder Thanks: 120 times Was thanked: 126 time(s) in 97 post(s)		It appears to me asides from ripping off the OP (great to see you got your money back) - This trader needs to answer to the following companies Minelab = if they are an authorized dealer, then this should be revoked because of their dealings with counterfeit gear - Especially offering customers the alternative to purchase counterfeit Minelabs - First Texas = For knowingly selling counterfeit T2's in New Zealand Kellyco = For clearly stating in their original advertisement on trademe that they purchased the counterfeit metal detector from them - this is indeed defamation of a business by implying Kellyco provided counterfeit equipment http://www.trademe.co.nz...er/auction-746388353.htm All this in the name of a fast buck - trust authorized dealers - sure cant I will give it a couple of days then pass this info on to the appropriate people - This business needs to be held accountable for this behavior - I certainly wont recommend anyone to these tossa's
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Guardian		Posted : Saturday, 2 August 2014 5:21:10 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 30/10/2011(UTC) Posts: 716 Location: Dunedin Thanks: 42 times Was thanked: 222 time(s) in 185 post(s)		Yip same director of the "distributor" (BLAXALL & STEVEN DISTRIBUTORS LIMITED) as Skylab Ltd, nothing wrong with that but something needs to be done about the employee. I doubt the distributor is going to stop supplying themselves though. I guess it gives them a certain amount of separation and the distributor can say well it was a re-sellers employee. So the question is will Minelab do anything about it, or can they if technically it's another company not the distributor that's to blame. Would be interesting to know our "Trusted" Minelab dealers perspective - possibly they have to deal with each other from time to time so you can't blame him for keeping his thoughts to himself. Really Skylab is guilty by association, will that make a big difference to them? Probably not as I'm sure most of the members of this forum would not give Skylab a thought in the first place. All that a side. If this fella had have been honest from the start this wouldn't have happened - simply he was out to make a buck.

rumple		Posted : Monday, 4 August 2014 5:04:52 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 13/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 0 Location: North island Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 17 time(s) in 12 post(s)		http://www.trademe.co.nz/760052395 He's still denying what is obviously true. Like it has been said teknetics don't make a t2+ which is written on detector that you sold me in big writing T2+ (also in auction photos) david. You've blacklisted anyone who will question you. You are active on paydirt , only smart thing you've done is stay quiet

Guardian		Posted : Monday, 4 August 2014 5:24:41 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 30/10/2011(UTC) Posts: 716 Location: Dunedin Thanks: 42 times Was thanked: 222 time(s) in 185 post(s)		I think I have it figured. Obviously it's an innocent mistake and he got his Kelly co and Alibaba emails confuddled....NOT

gjj109		Posted : Monday, 4 August 2014 10:14:53 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 14/03/2011(UTC) Posts: 464 Location: Thames Thanks: 217 times Was thanked: 194 time(s) in 115 post(s)		For those that missed it, here are the questions and replies posted on the now closed Trade me auction for the Minelab GPX5000. Sorry about the jumble, but you will probably get the drift. Closed: Mon 4 Aug, 5:45 pm. Questions and answers Can you please post the serial number and put up a photo of the serial number as well. gjj (132 132 positive feedback) 9:33 pm, Wed 30 Jul SEE MY OTHER ANSWER 9:20 am, Thu 31 Jul Hi there David?? I suggest that you take a look at this line of posts, but I am sure that you are aware of it.....more so the second page & my comment, I wasnt going to get involved but seeing that bit of evidence I now am. http://www.paydirt.co.nz/forum s/yaf_postst4126_Counterfeit-D etectors.aspx#post35456 jw26 (1302 1302 positive feedback) 4:48 am, Thu 31 Jul WE ARE THE NZ MINELAB DEALER AND MODEL HAS DIFFERENT NUMBERS YOU CAN CONTACT US FROM MINELABS WEBSITE OUR CONTACT DETAILS ARE O THE MINELAB SITE 9:20 am, Thu 31 Jul Is it not possible to have the serial number for THIS metal detector that you are running the auction on? Obviously there are counterfeits out there, and this would be most appropriate way to seek assistance in ensuring this is a REAL piece of equipment as it seems above someone has been ripped pretty badly recently with a teknetics metal detector. Piece of mind that bidding on a genuine product would be good. Thanks :-) k.ticesgirl (144 144 positive feedback) 6:55 pm, Thu 31 Jul that's all not true that person was wrong every thing they were told was true 9:10 am, Fri 1 Aug Its like magic - you seem to have no problems answering questions here, yet avoid answering the questions on your counterfeit T2 metal detectors - If you are a genuine agent for Minelab expect a call from them & First Texas - what a shitty thing it is your doing ktodd (805 805 positive feedback) 11:58 am, Sat 2 Aug every this you are saying is wrong if you really want to research look back at my feed back we have sold about 25 Kelly Co brand pin pointers on trade me also many other detectors from them and look at minelab .com.au and you will find our contact details as the NZ minelab dear 10:08 am, Mon 4 Aug Not only have you been found to be a scummy counterfeit seller but it appears your a liar as well - Great business ethics - Here is what you claimed on your T2 advertisement [ "This high powered late model technology metal detector I bought from Kelly co in the USA it cost over $1000.00 you can look it up on there website I have only used it a few times and are really impressed with how sensitive and how easy to aye but I need to sell as I've got some big rates bills to pay" cont.... ktodd (805 805 positive feedback) 1:04 pm, Sat 2 Aug You thing you know what you are talking about but you are Not correct 10:13 am, Mon 4 Aug Perhaps you can let us know who it was at Kellyco who sold you this item - However I don't expect to hear anything from you at all - It appears you screwed up big time - Kellyco will also be in touch with you and your business - I am sure they will also be a little pissed at lying about them selling you the counterfeit equipment ......... ktodd (805 805 positive feedback) 1:09 pm, Sat 2 Aug Kelly co contact us and send there specials PDF to us every month as we are on there mailing list our contact was " Chaymae Schimidt" 10:12 am, Mon 4 Aug Hi you have offered me the GPX4800 which I was keen on but I am a little concerned about some of the comments on your auctions. Are these genuine and can you prove this? Dont want a chinese copy if that is what you are selling. Can you please let me know if you have some way of proving authenticity if i accept the offer. Thanks. val360 (111 111 positive feedback) 1:34 pm, Sun 3 Aug we are the minelab dealer there is a lot of hard feeling out there about copies and there are some in the markets but we are the dealer you will get a genuine model if you by from us 10:14 am, Mon 4 Aug Well that guy that brought Teknetic's of you David, that wasn't genuine. newheart (130 130 positive feedback) 12:48 pm, Mon 4 Aug no he was incorrect 12:49 pm, Mon 4 Aug I've looked at pay dirt site and it looks like this fake Teknetic's you sold is going big time on you, there seems to be lots of evidence against you, why not just take him through the courts as this seems to be right through the country and oversea's at present, it must be effecting your sales as one bad apple can rot the box. I'm coming down that way soon and if I could see a resolution to the bad sale then I might look at a purchase. newheart (130 130 positive feedback) 1:18 pm, Mon 4 Aug that refers to a 1$ reserve auction and as the customer was not happy was given a full refund 2 1/2 weeks ago one of trade-me strengths is people can say what they like any body not happy with any purchase receives a full refund see my feed back and note we are in trade and all our customers are happy 2:24 pm, Mon 4 Aug Teknetics doesn't make a T2+ model, like the one in your auction. Its a fake as I should know, I own a T2. newheart (130 130 positive feedback) 3:18 pm, Mon 4 Aug

DMNZ		Posted : Monday, 4 August 2014 10:47:36 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 4/05/2013(UTC) Posts: 184 Location: nz Thanks: 39 times Was thanked: 58 time(s) in 38 post(s)		the email offer of the Fake gpx 5000s from this guy should be forwarded to minelab asap. I spoke with him the other day (about another matter) and he said that he was buying stuff from kellyco as it was cheaper than from the normal distribution channel. He said some mine labs are make in Malaysia, others here, others there, hard to tell even if the real ones are real. Sounds like BS. The email of the offer of the 5000's is the "Smoking Gun" needed. I was and still am tempted to buy the SDC...but....is it real?
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rumple		Posted : Thursday, 7 August 2014 3:10:14 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 13/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 0 Location: North island Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 17 time(s) in 12 post(s)		So much for David's monthly emails from chaymae schimidt haha. Just a bit more proof of his dribble mouth answers on trademe. He is also saying I have put fake serial numbers on the detector. Some bodies about to lose there job and then some

goldhanded		Posted : Thursday, 7 August 2014 1:18:19 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 29/03/2013(UTC) Posts: 43 Location: nationwide Thanks: 66 times Was thanked: 41 time(s) in 19 post(s)		Hi all, So the evidence mounts and I just want to say thanks to everybody that has been supporting Rumple so far,hes put a lot of work into chasing all of this up.Im hoping that one or some of you guys that have been in the hobby for quite awhile and perhaps have vested interest in getting rid of guys like David will step up and take the reigns on this issue,see it through and get a result.Its great that Rumple has done so much,but at the end of the day he is just the innocent guy that got ripped by a bogus dealer and I personally think it should be up to those in the industry to set an example and get busy cleaning up this type of thing,it is criminal that trade-me are blatanly letting this go on!They have been told time and again about this carry on but seem to be happy enough to let it go on.Its not good enough that this guy works for a legitimate distributor,why havent we heard from these guys?Surely they are aware of David by now and I am sure they are aware of the paydirt community.Its not good enough to remain silent!So anyway guys dont let this ride,if you have the means nesscesary,then use them,we are in the North Island so are restricted as far as going into skylabs and having a good chin wag with those fellows.If you have followed this up,please post what you have done and any results you may have,heres a good chance to set an example to those that think they can rip off their fellow countryman! Cheers! Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to decieve

goldgrab2000		Posted : Monday, 11 August 2014 1:11:25 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Flake Groups: Registered Joined: 16/03/2014(UTC) Posts: 23 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 9 times Was thanked: 8 time(s) in 6 post(s)		Hi all I have recently bought a new minelab sdc 2300 from Skylab chch and hope like hell this is not a counterfeit, if it is I will be getting way more than just a refund...messing with the wrong person here lol. I will be contacting minelab soon to verify s/n etc and will post the outcome. Thanks guys.

goldgrab2000		Posted : Monday, 11 August 2014 5:33:31 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Flake Groups: Registered Joined: 16/03/2014(UTC) Posts: 23 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 9 times Was thanked: 8 time(s) in 6 post(s)		Minelab just got back to me and said the serial numbers are all ok and the unit was listed as been sold to Blaxall and Stevens in chch, so looks like I'm in the clear. They also told me at this stage, being a new detector, the sdc has no reports of any counterfeit action. Happy detecting guys.

goldhanded		Posted : Monday, 11 August 2014 7:45:00 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 29/03/2013(UTC) Posts: 43 Location: nationwide Thanks: 66 times Was thanked: 41 time(s) in 19 post(s)		Hello there Goldgrab,good to hear Minelab have got back to you so quickly,pity they havnt been as quick to follow up on this counterfeit con,although I do believe they will be doing so.I don't mean to be negative but as far as Skylab gos I would be very wary of buying any products they sell,just because the serial number is on there it dosnt mean that they have not swapped parts around or dodgy dealings to that effect.I have seen most of the communication between David Marsden and The paydirt member Rumple and I can assure you that David Marsden is an outright fraud and is not remorseful in any way shape or form,so I imagine he will be back to his same old tricks before to long,hey he's probly back to his same old tricks right now as we speak .Anyway good luck with your new possession and I really do hope it's a genuine article.

rumple		Posted : Monday, 11 August 2014 8:15:41 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 13/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 0 Location: North island Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 17 time(s) in 12 post(s)		Could this be the same david? Edited by user Monday, 11 August 2014 8:22:02 PM(UTC) \| Reason: Not specified

sycotoad		Posted : Tuesday, 12 August 2014 9:02:39 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 9/08/2012(UTC) Posts: 569 Location: downunder Thanks: 120 times Was thanked: 126 time(s) in 97 post(s)		Originally Posted by: goldgrab2000 Minelab just got back to me and said the serial numbers are all ok and the unit was listed as been sold to Blaxall and Stevens in chch, so looks like I'm in the clear. They also told me at this stage, being a new detector, the sdc has no reports of any counterfeit action. Happy detecting guys. Latest Minelab Counterfeit prices - According to this thread you can pick one up at your local Minelab Dealer Minelab X-Terra 705 Gold Pack $500 Minelab X-Terra 305 metal detector $250 Minelab X-Terra 505 metal detector $300 Minelab X-Terra 705 Metal Detector $400 Minelab ctx3030 Metal Detector $1100 Minelab Safari Metal Detector $600 Minelab Sovereign GT Metal Detector $650 Minelab Excalibur II Metal Detector $700 Minelab Explorer SE Pro $650 Minelab Pro-Find 25 Pinpointer $130 Minelab GPX5000 Metal Detector $2000 Minelab E-TRAC Metal Detector $700 Minelab GPX4800 Metal Detector $1700 Minelab SDC 2300 Gold Metal Detector $1500 It appears the authorized dealers believe the Chinese units to be as good as the units they are supposed to sell
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goldgrab2000		Posted : Wednesday, 13 August 2014 1:21:46 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Flake Groups: Registered Joined: 16/03/2014(UTC) Posts: 23 Location: Christchurch Thanks: 9 times Was thanked: 8 time(s) in 6 post(s)		Hey sycotoad Could you let me know where you got these prices from..? I would be very interested to know if there is counterfeit sdc2300's on the market and im sure minelab.au would be also Thanks

rumple		Posted : Wednesday, 13 August 2014 9:16:30 AM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Dust Groups: Registered Joined: 13/07/2014(UTC) Posts: 0 Location: North island Thanks: 23 times Was thanked: 17 time(s) in 12 post(s)		Hows this. He has never been treated so bad? David I havnt even started on you. I told you I'm that guy with to much time on my hands and told you to stop your bullshit. That little bit of bullshit feedback is fueling me more. Proven 100% counterfeit if anyone wants the serial numbers, even though david says I put the fake numbers on it haha. He is still on here reading. Happy to say I'm fostering baby male goat from spca and he been gifted the name David. David the goat

goldhanded		Posted : Wednesday, 13 August 2014 4:46:45 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Nugget Groups: Registered Joined: 29/03/2013(UTC) Posts: 43 Location: nationwide Thanks: 66 times Was thanked: 41 time(s) in 19 post(s)		Seriously?Now I'm getting wound up,this guy is unbelievable in the extreme.Blatantly sells a dodgy machine knowing full well that it's counterfeit and absolutly hopeless as far as being a practical detector,works for an authorise Minelab agent,so there is no excuse for not knowing what he was doing.Then he turns around and throws blame at his victim and also bad mouths him,it's truely criminal.At the moment I have nothing good to say so I will bite my tounge for now,but really this is the pits!Hang in there Rumple,justice will be served!

Shilo		Posted : Wednesday, 13 August 2014 6:11:47 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Medals: Groups: Registered Joined: 29/01/2011(UTC) Posts: 573 Location: Kawhia Thanks: 17 times Was thanked: 285 time(s) in 185 post(s)		Originally Posted by: goldgrab2000 Hey sycotoad Could you let me know where you got these prices from..? I would be very interested to know if there is counterfeit sdc2300's on the market and im sure minelab.au would be also Thanks Just took a look at Alibaba where most of the fakes are marketed: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Minelab-SDC-2300-Gold-Metal-Detector_171405942.html
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sycotoad		Posted : Wednesday, 13 August 2014 9:14:59 PM(UTC)
Rank: Gold Ingot Groups: Registered Joined: 9/08/2012(UTC) Posts: 569 Location: downunder Thanks: 120 times Was thanked: 126 time(s) in 97 post(s)		Thanks Shilo - I spent 10 minutes asking a few different suppliers what units they have at what price - I got these back this afternoon, however I will not provide who the actual suppliers are - They, as Shilo pointed out, are easy enough to find - Minelab GPX 5000 Metal Detector...2000usd Minelab GPX 4800 Metal Detector...1850usd KTS GPA 1000, Under Ground Scanner......4000usd KTS GPA 1000 - Version 2013 - 3d Metal Detectors...2000usd Minelab Excalibur II Metal Detector....700usd Minelab CTX-3030 Standard-with Wireless Headphones Metal Detector...900usd Garrett AT Gold Metal Detector...400USD Garrett AT Pro Adventure Pack......400USD Garrett GTI 2500 Pro with Treasure Hound Eagle Eye.....800USD Garrett GTP 1350 ......400USD Garrett Infinium LS Metal Detector.......550USD Minelab X-Terra 705 Gold Pack.......470usd Minelab Eureka Gold Metal Detector....700usd White's GMT Metal Detector....450USD Fisher Gold Bug 2 Pro Metal Detector.....580USD White's TM 808 Specialty....450USD Nokta Golden King DPR Plus......1600usd Nokta GoldenGate Plus 3D...1500usd Nokta Golden King NGR Basic....1200usd Nokta Velox One Metal Detector....570USD Tesoro Lobo Metal Detector...370USD OKM Black Hawk Basic Kit.....2000USD OKM Black Hawk Complete Kit.......1500usd OKM Black Hawk R3 Complete Kit....2000USD Black Hawk Pulse Induction Metal Detector...1700USD Teknetics T2 Special Edition.......500USD Teknetics G2 Gold Metal Detector....600USD Rover Deluxe New Edition - Only...... $3,700.00USD Rover C II New Edition - Only......... $3700.00USD Cobra Beach Magnet Metal Detector....200USD Teknetics Omega 8000 Metal Detector.......500USD Minelab PRO-SWING 45 Metal Detector Harness Minelab E-TRAC Metal Detector.......70usd Minelab Safari Metal Detector.......700USD Minelab Safari Metal Detector Pro-Pack...900USD Minelab X-TERRA 705 Dual Metal Detector....550USD Minelab X-TERRA 305 Metal Detector.....170USD Minelab X-TERRA 505 Metal Detector...370usd Minelab GPX 5000 Metal Detector...2000usd Minelab GPX 4800 Metal Detector...1850usd KTS GPA 1000, Under Ground Scanner......4000usd KTS GPA 1000 - Version 2013 - 3d Metal Detectors...2000usd Minelab Excalibur II Metal Detector....700usd Minelab CTX-3030 Standard-with Wireless Headphones Metal Detector...900usd Garrett AT Gold Metal Detector...400USD Garrett AT Pro Adventure Pack......400USD Garrett GTI 2500 Pro with Treasure Hound Eagle Eye.....800USD Garrett GTP 1350 ......400USD Garrett Infinium LS Metal Detector.......550USD Fisher Gold Bug 2 Pro Metal Detector.....580USD Minelab X-Terra 705 Gold Pack.......470usd Minelab Eureka Gold Metal Detector....700usd White's GMT Metal Detector....450USD White's TM 808 Specialty....450USD Nokta Golden King DPR Plus......1600usd Nokta GoldenGate Plus 3D...1500usd Nokta Golden King NGR Basic....1200usd Nokta Velox One Metal Detector....570USD Tesoro Lobo Metal Detector...370USD OKM Black Hawk Basic Kit.....2000USD OKM Black Hawk Complete Kit.......1500usd OKM Black Hawk R3 Complete Kit....2000USD Black Hawk Pulse Induction Metal Detector...1700USD Teknetics T2 Special Edition.......500USD Teknetics G2 Gold Metal Detector....600USD Rover Deluxe New Edition - Only...... $3,700.00USD Rover C II New Edition - Only......... $3900.00USD Cobra Beach Magnet Metal Detector....200USD Teknetics Omega 8000 Metal Detector.......500USD Minelab PRO-SWING 45 Metal Detector Harness Minelab E-TRAC Metal Detector.......70usd Minelab Safari Metal Detector.......700USD Minelab Safari Metal Detector Pro-Pack...900USD Minelab X-TERRA 705 Dual Metal Detector....550USD Minelab X-TERRA 305 Metal Detector.....170USD Minelab X-TERRA 505 Metal Detector...370usd Sorry for the double ups The above is from just one supplier - I was also sent product & price lists from another 4 - Now I am in no way promoting counterfeit gear however the only way Fisher/Minelabs and the likes can guarantee their customers that they can get a genuine product is by purchasing from an authorized dealer, As it now appears authorized dealers are also selling counterfeit units, then we as a customer have no safeguards at all - Personally I have been bringing this to the attention of the US manufacturers for quite some time. Well ever since they started clamping down on us purchasing from reputable US suppliers anyways - Yes there are ways around buying from the USA however I believe in this day and age we should be able to buy from the US direct ensuring the $$ are going back to the USA - Another point of mention is this - Not all Chinese made gear is shite, so get that out of your heads - If that statement were true then western manufacturing would not be setting up in China now would it - Funny that - Your average joe blow has been told time and time again everything from China bad, yet a western corporations gets their stuff made there, put a label on it and because a western corporation now says its good, everybody wants one - There are good things made in China, but its up to you to find them & when you do, you will know what I am talking about - Tanks ;)
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