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Richie  
Posted : Saturday, 27 August 2011 7:38:12 PM(UTC)
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I was havin a good day till i read these last few comments.


Hey Bud, I had an awesome day panning, just fluffing about in the moss managed to pull a gram, my mate was abit hangover so we decided to pull the pin at 3pm, still the river cold az but what a magic day..........
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Posted : Saturday, 27 August 2011 8:16:18 PM(UTC)
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I still recon just add the extra section and all should be good and in reply to GBM i joined a gold forum because i also enjoy looking for gold when i can..i love my panning i just cant get to it like i use to when i lived in oamaru....and would also love to be able to go detecting for the raw gold but again cant get to it..i cant speak for the others but had to post this in reply to your comment on " if you dont look for gold why join a gold forum" ..i also joined so i could learn a few things like how to build a sluce box and how you use it..as well as read the storys as to what is being found in what public fosicing areas,,and of course seeing all the wonderfull pictures like yours of the raw gold..makes me druel.....i just dont see the problem in add the extra section for us detectionest so that those that want to look can look and those that dont they dont..it isnt really a major is it?..we can all be a happy family...:)
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Posted : Saturday, 27 August 2011 8:23:27 PM(UTC)
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Hi Guys, I have to admit.....I kind of agree with GBM & Eagle, G'day Eagle it has been a while. I have sort of been pretty quiet myself on here & notice a lot of the more dedicated gold prospectors/fossickers have been too.
Gavin. I really think it would be a good idea to have a seperate page/chapter for detecting for coins & relics & the like. Seperate from gold prospecting/fossicking. Here is a site that should give you a few ideas. I dont think there is any avenue that has been missed on this site. Keeps things all nice & seperate depending what your interest is. Scroll down & check out all the pages/chapters they have.
http://forum.treasurenet.com/

Happy hunting

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Posted : Saturday, 27 August 2011 9:08:56 PM(UTC)
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Hey Creamer I was not trying to bum you out & ruin your day,just my thoughts.Next time you are down this part of the world I would be more than happy bro to hook up & get you onto some of the good stuff,I run a minelab gpx 3500 when not sniping & theres still plenty left out there.

Gidday JW yea it has been a while,& you too have been pretty quiet of late.
Well the snows going & temps are starting to heat up slowly again so the fever is starting to build,I have got a few bits of late from close to an area that you hit quite hard when you were down here last winter...below the snow line.Are you coming down again this summer?

Nice work Richie any photos?

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Posted : Saturday, 27 August 2011 9:17:53 PM(UTC)
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Hi guys

I've just registered for this forum. I am originally for Dunedin and now live in Urunga, mid north coast of Oz. I am an Otago boy, playing Rugby in my younger days. Spent many a time in Luggate, Central Otago.been in aus for 35 years worked for naylor love built haast pub long time ago also played soccer for green island in dunedin if any is interested there a fourm over here called gold detecting@prospecting fourm if you cannot find eqiment that you need like metal detectors new or second hand pumps for sluices or equiment for mining i will post equiment supplers if any one is interested a lot supplers here ex kiwi
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Posted : Saturday, 27 August 2011 9:56:46 PM(UTC)
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Several people said they have not seen any gold posts in a while. I think that is because it is winter. When the snow is gone and the days get longer I suspect there will be a lot more gold post and a lot less 'hobby' posts. I know I plan to give gold detecting another go. But in the mean time arn't posts about coins etc more interesting than no posts at all?
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Posted : Saturday, 27 August 2011 10:03:30 PM(UTC)
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Eagle, GBM, come on guys,coin and junk feast??,if you dont like the posts dont bloody read them,simple really.
Gavin, more than happy with the fourms as they stand
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Posted : Saturday, 27 August 2011 10:43:49 PM(UTC)
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Hi there Steve, in defence of GBM & Eagle. In the above site that I put the link up for, there are a HEAP of topics. If you scroll down that page you will come across Metal Detecting. Under that topic is all your coin, treasure & relic type detecting & hunting. The next topic after that one is the Gold Prospecting page. Including all forms of gold fossicking weather it be sluice boxing, dry washing, gold panning, dredging, snipping, mossing or detecting etc. The truth for me is that although it is all under the TREASURE NET site, I have never ever bothered to check out the detecting for coins & relics page. My focus of interest is GOLD. Just like Eagle & GBM. Take a look at the top left of this page & under the three nuggets. What does that heading say?? Correct me if it doesnt say " New Zealand GOLD Fossicking Forum".
Hey I have no problem with coin detecting. I started off doing that way before I got into gold dectecting & I have found my share of coffee jars full of coins & have myself done a few posts on the subject. But I can see where the other guys are coming from & I agree with them. A seperate page for that is required. They can have there own page on their subject & then if they feel like checking out the gold fossicking side then they can. After all this forum is NZ Gold Fossicking.

JW :)
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Posted : Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:19:37 PM(UTC)
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Hi guys hows things...nice to see evryone takeing a interest on what is a good forum...as i posted what i think im not surprised at all to see some of the more dedicated gold men feel the same way with regards to coin/ring/trinket saturation etc i think its important to keep thing,s in order as if the more experinced guys get sick of looking at coins etc that really shouldnt be there or perhaps in the wrong place well they wont contribute....and that is a huge loss as knollage is hard to come by...though some people may not realise that....in fact i believe there are a lot of people that have never found any color before so this is a great place to learn all about how to find gold and about equipment etc so why wreck a good thing by soiling it with joe blow stuff...gold is millions of years old....once you find it there is no substitute and even if you are not close to the gold feilds a well planed trip only adds to the feaver!
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Lammerlaw  
Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:05:43 AM(UTC)
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Reading this topic with interest and didnt want to contribute here anymore but feel once again that it is time to say something.
There seems to be a lot of puritan gold miners out there each with their own ideas. Metal detectorists in all cases would rather go for gold but in many cases are prevented from doing so for a number of reasons, location and finance being the prime two reasons. They look for coins, jewellery and other treasures and whether the puritans like it or not it all fits in. I see a section fior general metal detectoring as enhancing the forum and adding another facet to it to whether the puritans go into it or not is entirely up to them so I say go for it!

I also see another section for rocks and minerals in general but have come to the conclusion that with a couple of exceptions most members here seem to be too narrow minded or one tracked minded. Looking for other rocks at the same time as gold mining has brought me home many pounds of Copper ore, Scheelite, Antimony, what I think is Spessartite Garnet, Limonite, microspherules, Petrified wood, Stromatolites and others. Most of the old timers had a remarkable knowledge of Geology in general and always kept an open mind...to me one who can think of nothing but gold is probably a rank newcomer to the Earth and its treasures. Once they have been at it awhile their interest and knowledge generally broadens.

Do the 'more experienced' guys really get sick of looking at coins - maybe I am not very experienced and therefore my love of looking at all things that guys have found is based on my inexperience...that must be it!

Note well that the immensely popular Australian gold mining magazine 'Gold Gem and Treasure' is based on GOLD but has interesting sections on the history of the goldfields (could be yet another section for here) as well as chapters on all gems and rocks and minerals of Australia and thus caters for everyone and you can read or reject what ever takes or doesnt take your fancy.

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nzpoohbear40  
Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:08:42 AM(UTC)
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I dont think you get it GBM and again im not wanting a fight im just stating the fact that the MORE EXPERIANCE GUYS dont HAVE to look at the metal detecting post to see our JOE BLOW STUFF as you put it...as rgmcbrid said as winter is coming to an end i am sure there will be more post on the gold side of things..
if gavin does as he has suggested and creat a part for the metal detector ppl then we will put our post in there with our pictures and what not and it wont interfer with your gold stuff..then if you go in there and look at our JOE BLOW STUFF you have done so on your own and would have no reason to complain about it as we havnt forced you to look at it.
And as JW has stated he started out looking for coins befor going onto gold..and i for one have already stated that i go gold panning as well and would love to be able to us my detector to find gold so i can post it under the proper catagory....this forum is a great forum and very informative both for the info you more experianced guys can give us on the gold subject and once again for the great picks...so please tell me what is wrong with us guys that do both having a section for our detecting...i mean hell if gavin wanted to he could easily change the name to New Zealand GOLD FOSSICKING AND METAL DETECTING FORUM...
and i am not by anymeans sugesting that he does so.....im just saying i dont see a major problem with adding a part for us detector ppl who enjoy both..you yourself said you use a detector for gold hunting...and i most certainly wouldnt want to see any of you older more experiance guys leave the site for something that is so easily fixed as adding a part for us guys.
Cheers and happy gold prospecting

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kiwijw  
Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 2:12:04 AM(UTC)
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Hi there Lammerlaw (Graeme), Good to see you posting back here. Please stick around. The site is a lot better with you contributing. We need you.
Poohbear: I already had the gold fever big time after my flirtation with it when I was down in QT for 18 months back in the early 1990's. I only got into the coin/relic detecting on my return to Waihi which is where I was living at the time. I actualy made my first detector from a Dick Smith kitset. That got me going. I then saw a Garrett Treasure Ace 300 for sale in one of our local Waihi papers & I bought it. That detector has found me a heap of coins & rings etc. I still use it when I get the urge to go down to the beach or see a good opportunity with sand removal from the beach due to storms or strong surf. I hadnt been detecting on the beachs for about three years as you get to a point where you have cleaned them out.
There were times when my detector lived in my ute & went every where with me & I used it at every opportunity I saw. Be it a play ground, park or what ever. It was to me a steping stone to learning the ins & outs of detectors. There traits & personalities. Each make & model is different. I now have 3 different coin relic machines & they each have there purpose. I have two VLF gold detectors & a minelab pulse induction machine. They too have there different applications for finding gold. But my passion now is for finding gold. Weather it be sluice boxing, Dredging, highbanking, Crevicing or detecting. I love the adventures, the beautiful places it takes me to. The detective work & research & putting that in to time out in the field & occassionaly being rewarded. The rewards up here in the Coromandel arent that great. Especialy on the detecting side.
I am going out today for a look up a creek that Colin (Criticol) & I shared a strong common interest in & is in fact in the location where he lived & the reason why he retired to there.
Now I dont want to start a shit fight &/or a slanging match back & forth re GOLD fossicking forum & coin/relic detecting. The two are sort of under the same unbrella but they are different. They do need to be seperated. I can see that now. Other wise this site wont be a gold site it will become dominated by coin relic hunters & us gold guys will drop out. I dont really want to do that as I had put a lot of time into this site on the gold front. A month or two ago I deleted a lot of my posts as I was looking to quit it & I wasnt really sure why. But I now know it was because of the direction the site was/is starting to go. And that is down the Coin Relic track.
This site was started off as a GOLD site. Dont over look that fact. Nothing more nothing less. If you coin/relic guys want that kind of a site then start your own or let Gavin wave his majic & seperate the two. I have given that link to the Treasure Net site that I belong to in the States as & perfect example as to how this can be done & everybody is happy. That way you can belong to a page that you want to be & check out what interests you. Be it coin/relic detecting or looking for gold, rocks, or minerals of other kinds etc. If you like more than one then you can check out what interests you. One isnt dominating the other as they are seperate. Those of you that have made the comment of " If you dont want to see the posts on coin detecting then dont bother reading them" How dear you come on to a GOLD FORUM & say that. THIS IS A GOLD FORUM.

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Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 9:16:10 AM(UTC)
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This has been an interesting thread. I am glad Ginger got the subject started otherwise I would have had no idea about how you gold guys felt. Having had a chance to digest it all I have to say I totally agree with you, this is a gold fossicing forum. If your only interest is gold you shouldn’t have to sort through 50 detecting threads to find 1 about gold.

On the other hand there is an active group of generalist fossicers using the site and it would be a shame to tell them that they are only allowed to post about unrefined gold.

The obvious solution, as we have been discussing, is to structure the site a little differently so that if someone has a specific interest they can easily confine themselves to that subject. I think the trick will be to make it obvious where to post so that everything does not end up under 'General.' In the mean time I hope you gold specialists will hang in there, I am confident that we can get it sorted out so that everyone is happy. In the end I think it will make for a better site and more enjoyable for everyone (except maybe Gavin who has to do all the work).
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Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 9:30:34 AM(UTC)
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Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 10:31:52 AM(UTC)
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Hi JW yes i have looked at and even bookmarked that site you posted for us to look at..and for most of the detector ppl on here that have commented in this thread that is exactly what we are talking about...adding a section like they have there on there page for the metal detecting...but it seems there are some that dont want us here at all...
and as far as me saying if the gold guys dont want to look at the detecting post then dont..i do dare to say it because it is a fact..they dont have to look at those threads, i wasnt saying it out of malice or contempt.

Yes I know this is a gold fossicking forum, and i have enjoyed many hours reading the post on gold and slucing and crevicing...but oviously the site has now attracted alot of us guys that like doing BOTH or as a steping stone From metal detecting to gold fosicking and THIS IS A GREAT SITE for New Zealanders to get info on about new zealand gold places and fosicking areas

I dont have the knowledge of alot of you guys in the gold field..but i have still posted what pictures i could of my gold and also commented when some new guys have asked where is a good place to go panning around the oamaru area and i have told them about dansy's pass and was thanked for the info.

I mean this really seams to be boiling some ppl up when the fix is as easy as adding something like a section for metal detecting as it does go hand in hand with gold fosicking like lammerlaw said...Sorry gavin not sure how easy for you but you know what i mean...
from what i see that site you gave us the link to has a section for everything like you said and why cant we do that and add a section here all under the one site
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Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 11:45:57 AM(UTC)
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now this is creating a big stirrup still havent read anything on GOLD FOSSICKING lately
i do read posts on detecting with limited interest and feel alittle sorry for guys up north that dont have gold with in 10 min drive like i have but thats the cost of living on the coast

one has to remember that gold can be found with a detector just sometime comes in round things that go over fingers. but there are sites on utube of people finding gold with detectors

creamer i enjoy your pictures so keep posting

i vote for seperate area

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Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:09:45 PM(UTC)
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So it seems that the lucky ones among us that have ready access to gold bearing areas are the ones that are discontented with the humble offering that me and other less fortunate members of the formus have posted. Perhaps those that are actually finding gold should share a yarn or two about their exploits. That way the gold to 'crap' ratio on here might improve a bit? It seems a bit odd to me that people complain about the lack of gold threads on here when no one seems to be having any luck in the gold department. Apart from the odd coromandel gold yarn I havnt seen any substantial contributions about gold on here for a while now. Imagine how dead the forum would be if solely gold had been discussed in the last few months. Personally i'd like to be able to say that i get out to find gold more than i do but i dont. So i make do with what i have at hand, which for me isnt nearly as satisfying as looking for gold but thats the way it is. I guess this is a challenge to thoes that do find gold to share their stories, it might just get some more sluggish people motivated to go find some gold and also share their stories.

P.S I'm hoping no one gets upset abot this contribution by the way.
And now....On sandy beaches and muddy soil, rings and coins await my coil!
Lammerlaw  
Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 12:50:01 PM(UTC)
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I was under the impression that i was doin the right thing by posting wot i can in my search for G. Now im all confused and somewot dissapointed. This be my last post 4 a while. I will come back another time. Wanna chat. Call me. 0211170854 094077149.

Shane


You were doing the right thing Shane so I would not hesitate if I was you to keep on the same track - you cant please everyone and thats all there is to it.
I think that a seperate area for 'Other rocks and minerals' and another for 'General detecting' would be absolutely marvellous - this means that blokes who would like to get out gold mining but are held back by finances and location can share what they find for any interested parties and at the same time be part of the gold forum. I for one always read the 'other' finds to see what guys have picked up with their detectors.
Methinks that those who comment adversely probably suffer from jealousy because they cant get out to find coins and other good things so readily...jealousy does strange things to some.
Most forums cater for every taste so have sections accordingly where everyone can share their interests and finds and it is up to each of us as to what sections we read and contribute to.
One thing I have learnt is not to share anything of value as the jealousies bring out strange things in people.
Look forward to seeing what others have found in both the gold and non gold categories - I get just as much of a kick out of seeing Matts Moleskin button and military button as I do out of gold so keep it up fellows and dont ever let some individuals put you off. Those who wax on eloquently about gold only seem pretty shallow to me.

Personally I think sections could be formatted to include - panning, sluicing, riffle boxes/cradles, dredges, metal detectors gold, metal detectors other, places, other rocks and minerals, historical artifacts and relics, goldfield life now and then etc...cater for everyone.

Poor Gavin - chin up Matey - its a great forum.

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Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 1:41:18 PM(UTC)
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Personally I think sections could be formatted to include - panning, sluicing, riffle boxes/cradles, dredges, metal detectors gold, metal detectors other, places, other rocks and minerals, historical artifacts and relics, goldfield life now and then etc...cater for everyone.


yes i agree i just dont seem to have the way with words to put it any better

the reason i dont post all the time about how great it is on the coast is because dont want every body over here (it wount be the coast) but i take the point that a few more stories would be more interesting and take on board. so will share findings with the forum

here is one exanple:
i was up the tailings creek yesterday ( tailings creek flows into the totara river just north of charleston ) on my quad bike apart from seeing some wild goats there was also a drive going into the hill, so i gess i will let you all know whats up there next time when i have a light with me


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Posted : Sunday, 28 August 2011 2:38:01 PM(UTC)
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This reminds me a lot of the old conflict between fly fishermen and their different methods. Some dry flier's turned their nose up at nymph fisher, while the nymph guys turned their nose up at guys using streamers etc. But the thing is that all methods were connected and they each had something to learn from the other.

In this situation there are some extremely experienced "coin" detectorist's out there that I wouldn't hesitate to say could teach an amateur nugget hunter a thing or 2 about their detectors. Likewise although I haven't had the opportunity to go after native gold, gold still acts the same and by learning from this forum about bedrock and crevice searching etc I have successfully applied that same knowledge to the local beaches here when searching for gold jewellery.

I agree with Lammerlaw about rocks and gemstones as well. The reason I started this hobby was that I wanted to renew my old rockhounding / mineral collecting interests. The knowledge behind the geology of rock hounding is the same and just as applicable for fossicking native gold.

Some people are set on having a closed mind - that's fine and their choice, but they will stagnate in the hobby if they refuse to learn anything new or open their mind to other methods. The above has been a good discussion, the only negative is how a certain member is set in insulting other peoples finds without knowing the effort put into locating them. But that shows what sort of person he is.

As I stated earlier I'm easy whether a new section is added or not. This forum is fantastic and I have learnt a lot from it so I will stick around no matter what happens. I have been willing to pass on any knowledge I gain to others but if the decision is for the forum to be exclusively native gold then I will still follow but won't post. If a separate section is added, I hope to pass on and learn as much as I can.
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